The Build Brothers have been at it again!!!

Posted by: Derek

The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 10/07/2004 16:17

Wow! This new build is awesome!

Sorry guys, we're not allowed to release it :-(

Maybe Drakino, Mark Lord or Firefox31 or one of the other guys at "The Meet!" will pop in with some other details later on. A pity you all couldn't make it :-(
Posted by: hybrid8

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 10/07/2004 16:53

Other than stability (which is always good), any new features?

What I really want when I reinstall my empeg: SOUP VIEWS (database-derived virtual "playlists")

Creating manual playlists in something like Emplode or Jemplode was fine the first time around, but I have so many othe things on my plate that I'd really like to just dump music onto the player in the future without any care as to where I'm dumping it. It's always properly tagged, so simple display/sort options for ARTIST, TITLE, ALBUM, etc. will work well.

So, no one posting a BBS simulcast of the meet's goings-on? Some of poor bastards have to stay away and work.

Bruno
Posted by: andy

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 10/07/2004 20:59

Unfortunately we don't have an Internet connection here at the meet. I am posting this using a 19200k dial-up link on my new pocket pc.

Rest assured though, we are all having a great time...
Posted by: Shonky

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 11/07/2004 09:26

So why aren't you allowed to release the new version? No fair for us poor sods living on the other side of the world...
Posted by: tfabris

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 11/07/2004 15:32

Tradition.
Posted by: drakino

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 11/07/2004 21:23

Not quite as good as a simulcast, but here goes:

First we saw [censored] then talked about [censored]. Then we had food. Then more [censored]. Oh, and can't forget [really censored] and the [censored] stuff.
Posted by: boxer

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 06:26

Quote:
Wow! This new build is awesome!

Awesome's the word, I don't know how I ever did without that [censored][censored][censored], I've just loaded it.... I couldn't believe my Empeg could actually sound better!
Posted by: Shonky

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 06:31

You guys are just being mean now
Posted by: skibum

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 07:30

Quote:
You guys are just being mean now


No surely this Using non-standard cache size 374 (bonus 16Mb, adjustment 0) is mean. It's the output at startup on 2.01 on a 32mb mk2a.

Using mp3's encoded at 160kbps its now about 17mins between disc spin ups
Posted by: mlord

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 09:46

Soups? How passe! But I think I saw them in there someplace, as lessor features..

Now the automatic [censorted] using a [censorted] connected to the [censorted] port is truly awesome. I even have a [censored] to bring home for general use .. cannot wait to try it all out.

Now in the Heathrow lounge getting pissed.

cheers
Posted by: schofiel

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 16:54

Don't forget about Patrick's new, spur of the moment (Censored), which - by the way - he has already completely redesigned and routed a PCB for this morning! First prototype should be ready in about (Censored) from what I hear this evening, depending on whether he can get the (Censored) in sufficient quantities.
Posted by: schofiel

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 16:57

It's going to be about oooh, at least (Censored) hours or so? if Patrick gets the (Censored) working in the next few days in between doing tuners. Now that will be something!
Posted by: loren

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 16:59

*pounds head on desk*

OOOO!!! I know i know i know!
Posted by: mtempsch

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 17:32

Quote:
(Censored)


Sorry Rob,

already spilled the beans on that one in another thread...
Posted by: schofiel

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 18:31

No, that was the memory expansion board - I'm talking about the (Censored)
Posted by: smu

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 18:37

Quote:
No, that was the memory expansion board - I'm talking about the (Censored)

Are you are talking about his (censored), his new toy with stereo (censored)?

Oh, geee, I think I leaked some censored information there. At least for those who know.

cu,
sven
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 19:14

You guys are killing us!
Posted by: genixia

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 19:17

How friendly is the automatic [censored] wrt the two 'stolen' [censored] used in my first hijack hack? Will it coexist nicely? Or will I have to reprioritise?

EDIT: Is it me or is the automatic censoring on this board flaky now? It keeps censoring out large parts of the sentence, not just an offending word. I guess that'll teach me to not type the word shit as a shortcut for writing [censored]
Posted by: Shonky

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 20:27

All I can say is that you guys better come back and fill in all those censored bits
Posted by: tbussmann

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 12/07/2004 22:53

Come on now guys stop being mean.
Posted by: jimhogan

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 13/07/2004 02:08

You guys are killing us!

It is murder...but nice murder. Cool things to come...memories of getting a Top Secret CD last year. Dang, I wish I could have gone, but I've got to say that swirl of mystery around Amersfoort surprises is a budding tradition I can't complain about. The Guys keep showing up with magic. I hope I can get there next year.

In the meantime......Hey, Stu, can you do a reverse vasectomy on my MIC input????
Posted by: peter

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 08:12

Quote:
No surely this Using non-standard cache size 374 (bonus 16Mb, adjustment 0) is mean. It's the output at startup on 2.01 on a 32mb mk2a.

Using mp3's encoded at 160kbps its now about 17mins between disc spin ups

No, surely my asking whether anyone's yet tried the third release -- the one which never spins up -- is mean.

Peter
Posted by: skibum

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 08:48

True enough Peter. But both of mine are running 2.01 now and the disc hardly spins up which is I'm happy with.
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 09:07

*ahem*

Version 2.01?!?!?!?

I know there has been a lot of hinting, but that was assumed to be a new alpha. This sounds very interesting...
Posted by: mlord

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 09:14

Remember, the Build Bros gave us THREE new releases on those CDs..
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 09:35

Hahahahaha... Just checking...
Posted by: mtempsch

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 09:49

Yep,

and people have not yet asked anything about #3

Peter: I've been wanting to, but haven't found the time yet. Then again, this release might spark new life into other parts of the BBS
Posted by: mlord

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 09:59

I hope to update Hijack to fully serve that third player release -- but the backlog here means this won't happen until at least August, unless I get bored here .
Posted by: Shonky

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 10:03

And for how much longer is this silly game going to continue I ask? Think of all the agony you're inflicting on us mere mortals...

Yeah I know... you guys are lovin' it...
Posted by: skibum

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 10:20

all the new releases now detect more memory if its available. Although I found for the 1st time I'm now using reservecache. Although that said, I've configured it to start more as well.

Can't remember much else. Beer must have degaussed my memory
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 10:21

Of course, I may know more than I am letting on... That is part of the mystery... The drama... The suspense!

In any case... Other parts of the BBS. Long dormant. Well, we just merged with the Rio Receiver and Rio Central... Hmmm... Coincidence??? Especially with your use of italics in your post... Serve... Hmmm...

Edit: Fixed a spelling error before anyone else caught / commented on it...
Posted by: Shonky

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 10:29

OK then so the empeg functions as a Rio Receiver? I assume that's the version that never spins up the hard drive. I'm fairly sure that's right given what Paul just said.

Can it also function like a Rio Central for Rio Receivers (and of course the forementioned empeg Rio receiver functionality) around the place?
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 10:35

! Good point. I was thinking more about the extra memory and caching, but that is an interesting thought.. Hmmm! That fits...
Posted by: andy

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 10:36

It cannot function as a Rio Central, that is the work that Mark was referring to wanting to do within HiJack.
Posted by: pim

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 10:50

Ok folks, I won't let you be in suspense any longer.
Here are the release notes:



Pim
Posted by: andym

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 10:52

snigger....
Posted by: peter

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 10:54

ROFL. Somehow reading about the Butler Report on news.bbc and then coming here to see this, seems oddly appropriate...

Peter
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 11:07

Hahahahahaha! Okay, okay!
Posted by: mlord

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 11:13

Perhaps some of the photos may reveal more..
Posted by: Shonky

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 11:27

Yeah we already figured out the AutoEQ feature. We're tired of guessing what's new since I think we know the majority of the new stuff. Or do we?

We just want to play with it now...

I for one would really like to see if the playlists are saved properly now. That's a real nuisance to me.
Posted by: russell

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 17:25

When (if :-( ) we ever get our hands on v3a8 will the new AutoEQ feature be any use in helping me to set up my Pheonix Gold 1/3 octave equaliser?

R.
Posted by: tfabris

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 17:28

I doubt it. It should only be useful if you use the empeg's internal EQ, not an external one.

If you want to set up your external equalizer, use an RTA analyzer or go to your local high-end stereo shop and have them use theirs.
Posted by: russell

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 17:29

I would be quite interested to see the logs for the web sever hosting the v3alpha directory! I'm hitting it at least twice a day in the hope that they will take pity on us poor deprived citizens.
Posted by: JBjorgen

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 17:45

I must admit I don't know jack about setting EQ's etc..., but could you not run the AutoEQ feature, then note the changes, reset it to flat, and duplicate the changes on the external EQ?

Or am I over-simplifying?
Posted by: adavidw

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 17:46

Dear Mary,



I yearn for you tragically.

A. T. Tappmann
Chaplain
U.S. Army.
Posted by: Roger

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 18:45

Quote:
Dear Mary,

...


It's "R. O. Shipman", but nevertheless:

Posted by: mlord

AutoEQ with 2ch system? - 14/07/2004 18:47

Mmm..

I'm trying to use the AutoEQ function here, and not much is happening. I've got the mic connected, and all I see is this screen after selecting AutoEQ (screenshot attached).

This is in docked operation, with only two outputs connected (I forget which two). I suppose it must be trying to use the other two outputs, right?

EDIT: never mind. I just found the white/pink noise files on the CD (oops). Loading them now
Posted by: genixia

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 18:51

Twice a day? I've got a */5 in the first column on a cron job.
Posted by: adavidw

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 14/07/2004 19:48

Quote:


It's "R. O. Shipman", but nevertheless:




I doublechecked my copy before posting, just to be sure of the wording, and it most definitely says A.T. Tappman (although I did add an extra 'n' in my post inadvertantly). I was assuming that your memory was horribly deceiving you, until I checked and saw that we're possibly both right.
Posted by: mlord

AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!! - 14/07/2004 20:41

Like, holy sh*t!! My speakers all of a sudden sound WAY better!

Mind you, I'm one of the 99% majority here who normally never touch the equalizer controls..

Cheers!
Posted by: FireFox31

Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!! - 14/07/2004 23:58

Quote:
My speakers all of a sudden sound WAY better!

That's the exact response I'm hoping to get after I blow away my horrible EQ settings with V3a8. I just *know* my stock speakers can do better.

Mark, what kind of mic did you use and where did you place it in the car? Did you do any post-adjusting for the mic's input curve (or whatever that's called)?

Oh weekend, please get here soon so I can use my shiney new V3a8 CD!
Posted by: Daria

Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!! - 15/07/2004 00:01

Bring that CD here and you can use it now
Posted by: Shonky

Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!! - 15/07/2004 00:02

Quote:
Oh weekend, please get here soon so I can use my shiney new V3a8 CD!


Send it here and I can use it for you...

edit: beaten to it!
Posted by: Daria

Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!! - 15/07/2004 00:54

Quote:
edit: beaten to it!


@nelson_muntz(ha ha)
Posted by: Roger

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 15/07/2004 05:01

Quote:
I was assuming that your memory was horribly deceiving you, until I checked...


Yeah, so did I, so I checked my copy as well:


Posted by: robricc

Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!! - 15/07/2004 12:04

Quote:
Bring that CD here and you can use it now

Bring your electric car to my house on Sunday and you can play with my CD.
Posted by: Daria

Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!! - 15/07/2004 13:08

It hasn't had the safety inspection yet, because i haven't had time (or help; my brother's going to come help me) to replace the batteries.
Posted by: robricc

Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!! - 15/07/2004 14:10

Well, I'll be home on Sunday I think if anyone wants to come over.
Posted by: Daria

Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!! - 15/07/2004 14:20

Annoying; I'll be elsewhere on Sunday but will be in Manhattan tomorrow
Posted by: robricc

Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!! - 15/07/2004 14:29

It's possible I can hang out tomorrow if anyone wants to do something somewhere. Anyone want to meet at a restaurant or something?
Posted by: drakino

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 15/07/2004 17:51

Those of you who used Paypal back in February for certain donations may want to check your e-mail.
Posted by: FireFox31

Re: AutoEQ: Wow!!!!!! - 16/07/2004 00:42

Oh, I forgot all about that electric car! What a cool hack that is.
Posted by: canuckInOR

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 16/07/2004 06:54

Hmm... not quite as easy as using the 'show revisions' thingy in Word, but...



Posted by: drakino

Re: The Build Brothers have been at it again!!! - 29/07/2004 17:18

Just to finally confirm one of the builds that was on the CD:


Mark, any update on Hijack allowing a switch back and forth?