Posted by: tonyc
iTunes 5 is out... - 07/09/2005 17:34
...and it still doesn't support hierarchical playlists. Instead, they've added "playlist folders" which can contain playlists, but not tracks. The "search bar" is a step backward too, if you ask me. Color me unimpressed.
Download here.
Posted by: drakino
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 07/09/2005 19:10
Being that the only iPod I own is a shuffle, can someone else answer if this new "folder" thing gets synced to an iPod? While the folders can't hold tunes, they can hold playlists and folders, allowing a somewhat odd hierarchy.
Smart Playlists now know about podcasts, so I can finally have auto podcast syncing to my Shuffle.
The new look, I think was more of a way to show not much has really actually been added to justify the 5 version, but they ran out of 4.x versions.
Posted by: wfaulk
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 07/09/2005 19:16
Somewhere I missed the iPod nano. Is it just the next iteration of the iPod mini?
Posted by: drakino
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 07/09/2005 19:22
Yes. The iPod Nano is the replacement for the Mini. It uses flash chips from Samsung to get the 2 and 4gb sizes. Samsung is aparently offering Apple a
great deal on the chips.
I'm actually tempted by the Nano, as my biggest complaint with the Shuffle is the lack of a screen. It's not a big deal on the motorcycle (where I need a flash based player since hard drives don't like the 5-7k rpm vibrations of my motor), but I have been using the Shuffle a lot for Podcast playback in the car, instead of bringing the empeg inside to sync podcasts to.
Posted by: Dignan
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 07/09/2005 19:35
They also released the Motorola ROKR phone. It's not very attractive, holds 100 songs, and has no memory expansion. No thanks.
I'm rather suprised by the nano. It's a very nice device.
Posted by: matthew_k
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 07/09/2005 19:52
Yup, the ROKR seems like a real let down. I'd love to see apple's interpretation of a RAZR, for instance. What I have no use for is a plastic brick that plays DRM encumbered AAC's. The damn thing meets all my requirements(gsm850, edge, bluetooth) but it has nothing to make it desireable beyond those features that are checkboxes for me.
This would have been the perfect launch event for Apple to launch bluetooth headphones that pair with the ROKR and your mac, let take cell phone calls, let you ichat and listen to itunes. Beoynd the obvious, wouldn't it be cool if the phone took over playing the music as you left the coverage area of your computer? It's all possible, but instead apple chose to liscense out their DRM to Motorola and apperently gains nothing but cash.
Matthew
Posted by: Dylan
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 07/09/2005 20:00
I've become one of those "Mac people". I refreshed my Apple.com tab every minute while the press conference was happening. I ordered a black 4 GB nano immediately after it was available on the site. And I mean immediate. Since they already have all my account info the order was completed in about 15 seconds. So that makes the maximum delta 00:01:15 from availability until my order.
Where oh where did I go wrong? I make fun of people like me.
Posted by: petteri
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 08/09/2005 11:38
Too bad Nokia couldn't have teamed up with Apple using this phone....
Nokia N91 oh well.. the price tag is likely to be a tad high anyway.
Posted by: furtive
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 08/09/2005 13:44
I don't "get" the new Motorola/Apple mobile phone/mp3 player.
It's big and it doesn't do anything my Nokia 6230 does.
Hardly a revelation
Posted by: Mataglap
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 08/09/2005 18:57
Apple cranks up the DRM straightjacket a little more for the phone:
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/09/08/itunes_phone_gratuit.html
Posted by: msaeger
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 09/09/2005 00:10
What is the point of limiting the number of tracks ?
Posted by: burdell1
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 09/09/2005 00:12
we got them where i work today...they are not as big as i thought they would be....
Posted by: burdell1
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 09/09/2005 00:35
no..i never said they look good.....but i guess i never saw the phone in person that it was based on that came out over a year ago....my guess is that they are limiting it to not compete with ipods since they won't profit nearly as much from the motorola phone....maybe it is something to get awareness out while Apple works on their own phone (which I hope they don't.)
Posted by: Dignan
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 09/09/2005 01:04
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you said anything. You're right, it is pretty small.
Quote:
maybe it is something to get awareness out while Apple works on their own phone (which I hope they don't.)
That's what folks are saying. Some are saying that it'll even have the wheel on it.
Posted by: drakino
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 09/09/2005 06:43
The ironic part to the limitation is that it only applies to the iTunes part of the phone. If you put normal MP3 files on the phones memory, and use the built in java media player that other Motorola phones also have, it has no limitation.
The iTunes synced songs also can not be used as ringtones. Seems odd, considering I am sure most people would want to do so.
The rumors say Apple wanted the number at 25 initially. Again, noone is sure why, beyond trying to avoid impacting iPod Shuffle sales. And of course, noone external to Apple knows how Shuffle sales are doing, as they only release a sales number covering the entire iPod family.
Posted by: tonyc
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 09/09/2005 12:04
Here's a
funny take on the questionable at best aesthetics of iTunes 5.
Oh, and for those who use mt-daapd (as I do) it just so happens iTunes 5 and mt-daapd don't play nice. An iTunes 5-friendly version is available at
http://nightlies.mt-daapd.org/. Unfortunately, the fix isn't available for the nightly builds with the extra features like server-side conversion.
Posted by: wfaulk
Re: iTunes 5 is out... - 09/09/2005 12:25
I always hated the brushed metal shit. Now they've got yet another HIG-flaunting piece of shit?
Posted by: drakino
Bad Nano - 12/11/2011 04:23
I'm actually tempted by the Nano, as my biggest complaint with the Shuffle is the lack of a screen. It's not a big deal on the motorcycle (where I need a flash based player since hard drives don't like the 5-7k rpm vibrations of my motor), but I have been using the Shuffle a lot for Podcast playback in the car, instead of bringing the empeg inside to sync podcasts to.
Necropost!
Apple just e-mailed me offering to replace this Nano. Seems the battery problem is getting worse with age, and they are now replacing every one out in the field. If you have one, (and didn't get the e-mail due to not being registered or it changed), you can head here.
https://supportform.apple.com/201110/
Posted by: JBjorgen
Re: Bad Nano - 12/11/2011 06:38
What are they replacing them with?
After 6 years...I'd say that's pretty good service.
Posted by: Phoenix42
Re: Bad Nano - 12/11/2011 13:32
Not every 1st gen Nano is covered, mine isn't
Granted I had to dig it out to check the serial number, so it is not as if it is in use...so no great lose to me.
edit
Anyone want a 1st gen iPod Nano that does not hold a charge?
Posted by: DWallach
Re: Bad Nano - 12/11/2011 22:18
Turns out my iPod nano is a 2nd-gen model. It normally spends all its time sitting in the Audi's poor excuse for an integrated connection (your first five playlists are presented as virtual CDs in a CD changer with the sixth CD being the entire contents of the iPod).
I'm not sure what I'd do with a replacement. Probably sell it and use the money on something else.