Shaken or Stirred?

Posted by: jimhogan

Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 04:03

Posted by: Neutrino

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 04:10

Shaken, always shaken!
Posted by: Dignan

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 12:02

Shaken! We're talking milkshakes, right? It would be weird to stir them.

Sorry, I don't like alchohol, but I wanted to see the poll results
Posted by: msaeger

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 12:41

Or maybe it's about paint
Posted by: RobotCaleb

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 13:30

Some mornings I shake my yogurt to mix it up. Other mornings I stick a spoon in and stir.
Posted by: Cris

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 14:23

I thought it was more of a Bond, James Bond type of question

Cheers

Cris.
Posted by: hybrid8

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 14:40

A milkshake is only "shaken" by name. Saying it's mixed, beaten, whipped or stirred, is definitely more descriptive of what goes on in making one.
Posted by: Roger

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 15:15

Neither. I tried a Martini once. My respect for 007 increased immeasurably. They're hardcore. I'll stick with beers, wines, or G&T, thanks.
Posted by: lastdan

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 15:46

shaken - foggy
stirred - clear
Posted by: Robotic

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 15:50

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Neither. I tried a Martini once. My respect for 007 increased immeasurably. They're hardcore. I'll stick with beers, wines, or G&T, thanks.

+1
A few years ago a friend made one for me and taught me a rhyme for the ingredients (which I've forgotten- something about 'six parts gin and one part vermouth'). Neither gin nor vermouth have a pleasing taste- mixing them together doesn't change it.
G&T is my choice, if not a good scotch or, more simply, a good beer. Wines are good- but I do not like the sweet ones.

edit:
Aha! The rhyme is actually part of a Tom Lehrer song- Bright College Days. Being a Lehrer fan I should have known that!
Posted by: rob

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 17:25

Of course there's no need for either shaking nor stirring with a decent gin martini. The martini^H^H^H vermouth (doh) only stays in the glass long enough to coat the sides and the ice, then you throw it away before adding the gin.

Rob
Posted by: lastdan

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 17:57

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Of course there's no need for either shaking nor stirring with a decent gin martini. The martini only stays in the glass long enough to coat the sides and the ice, then you throw it away before adding the gin.

Rob



are you talking about the vermouth?
Posted by: Robotic

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 16/11/2006 18:57

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are you talking about the vermouth?

Indeed he is!
Posted by: tfabris

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 17/11/2006 21:13

Anyone remember the Martin Sheen quote from West Wing about this? "What James Bond is actually ordering is a weak martini.
Posted by: DWallach

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 18/11/2006 15:11

I decided to check out the Wikipedia's martini page. Yowza. There's a huge amount of detail there about the whole shaken/stirred thing, the ratio of vermouth to gin/vodka, and so forth. Who knew martinis were so complicated?
Posted by: matthew_k

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 19/11/2006 17:25

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A few years ago a friend made one for me and taught me a rhyme for the ingredients (which I've forgotten- something about 'six parts gin and one part vermouth'

Most likely the end of the song Bright College Days by Tom Lehrer, which ends:
Quote:

But as we go our sordid sep'rate ways,
We shall ne'er forget thee, thou golden college days.

Hearts full of youth,
Hearts full of truth,
Six parts gin to one part vermouth.



Matthew
Posted by: Ezekiel

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 20/11/2006 00:43

Well, I had no martinis this week, but I did have a Singapore Sling yesterday at it's home at the Long Bar at Raffles Hotel in Singapore. Delicious, but so fruity you only really would want to drink one or two.

Personally my favorite martini is Grey Goose, very dry (pretty much a light coat on the top of the shaker) with three olives. I like it best paired with a dozen or so fresh oysters on the half shell. Mmmmmm. Two is sufficient for a good glow.

Of course, if I'm in a gin mood (less often than vodka), then I'd go with Bombay Sapphire or Miller's - prepared the same way as my vodka martini.

In either case - shaken.

The best thing about drinking martinis is that they're self-limiting. If you can't keep the drink in the glass while standing, you've had enough.

-Zeke
Posted by: andy

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 20/11/2006 06:45

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Of course, if I'm in a gin mood (less often than vodka), then I'd go with Bombay Sapphire or Miller's - prepared the same way as my vodka martini.



Have you ever tried Plymouth Gin ? I find it has a more complex taste than the mainstream gins.
Posted by: rob

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 20/11/2006 12:20

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Have you ever tried Plymouth Gin ? I find it has a more complex taste than the mainstream gins.

Plymouth might just be the best Gin in the world... Tanqueray isn't far behind and Bombay Sapphire is still a decent tipple and consistently available at any bar anywhere. I hear some people drink Gordon's, I'm sure they have their reasons.

Rob
Posted by: Ezekiel

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 20/11/2006 12:33

No, I've not yet tried Plymouth. I'll take a look for it once my Miller's runs dry (shouldn't be too long now). Since the state runs our liquor stores in NH, sometimes some brands simply aren't available. If they don't have it I'll take a look when I'm over in NY. Miller's is also a nice, complex flavor, a bit more spice/floral overtones than Sapphire.

Gordon's....mmm, yeah, I'm sure they do have their reasons. I'm unsure what they are.

-Zeke
Posted by: Ezekiel

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 12/12/2006 02:39

You all are correct, Plymouth makes a damn fine martini. My taste buds thank you.

-Zeke
Posted by: andy

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 12/12/2006 07:06

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You all are correct, Plymouth makes a damn fine martini. My taste buds thank you.



Now seems to be the perfect time to break the next bit of news to you then...



...they make more that one variety of gin.

As well as the "Original" that everyone stocks there is also "Navy Strength", which as well as having more alcohol also has a stronger taste. Very few places in the UK seem to stock it though.

http://plymouthgin.com/
Posted by: frog51

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 12/12/2006 08:15

Is like Bombay Sapphire - the stuff you get in the UK is an okay gin, but it is 7-10% weaker than the good Bombay Sapphire, and the taste just doesn't work quite as well at the lower alcohol content!
Posted by: Ezekiel

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 12/12/2006 12:41

114 proof gin, whoo!

I hope it's as good as Pusser's Navy Strength rum. Shaken over ice with a splash of fresh apple cider in a martini glass - my favorite fall drink.

My state liquor stores don't the stock the Plymouth Navy at all, so I'll have to look out of state to find it. While putting my bottle of Martini & Rossi away (a bottle of Noilly Prat in its' place), I noticed I still have a bottle of Sapphire in the back. This might take a while, given the rate I drink. New Year's may help some (people coming over).

-Zeke
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 24/01/2008 03:13

This is an ancient thread, but...
Originally Posted By: rob
Plymouth might just be the best Gin in the world... Tanqueray isn't far behind and Bombay Sapphire is still a decent tipple and consistently available at any bar anywhere. I hear some people drink Gordon's, I'm sure they have their reasons.

I finally got around to buying some Plymouth, and, damn, that's a fine gin. I thank you. Also, it's actually cheaper than Bombay Sapphire and Tanqueray Ten and only slightly more expensive than Beefeater and regular Tanqueray.

It would seem the reason that some people like Gordon's is that it's ungodly cheap.
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 24/01/2008 03:36

Oh, and one of the reasons that it took me so long to get around to it is:

It's damned hard to find tonic water that doesn't have high-fructose corn syrup in it. I only found a few brands made at all (Fever Tree, Stirrings, and Q Tonic), and could only actually find one of them to purchase (Stirrings). Sadly, even Schweppes is HFCS in the US.

I suppose, technically, I could have used diet tonic water, but it's not like I want aspartame or saccharin or sucralose or whatever they put in it these days, either.
Posted by: Roger

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 24/01/2008 14:57

Originally Posted By: rob
Plymouth might just be the best Gin in the world...


Ooh, I had a Plymouth Gin Martini just before Christmas. It was awesome. My compliments to the cocktail barman in Browns on Shad Thames.

If that's not available, I'll stick with Bombay, however. I (perhaps heretically) prefer it to Tanqueray. Gordons? Meh.
Posted by: DWallach

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 24/01/2008 15:14

I can't say as I've ever been much of a fan of gin (or vodka for that matter). Maybe I just haven't had a proper gin.

If I'm going for hard liquor, I tend to stay away from mixed drinks and go for something straight up or on the rocks. I've become a big fan of port, but I'm also hip on a good scotch wiskey or tequila.
Posted by: TigerJimmy

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 25/01/2008 20:57

In my opinion, Tanqueray is better in a G&T, Bombay Sapphire is better in a martini, but Plymouth is the best of all. If the rest of you haven't tried it, get yourself a bottle of Plymouth!
Posted by: BAKup

Re: Shaken or Stirred? - 13/02/2008 01:52

Originally Posted By: andy


Have you ever tried Plymouth Gin ? I find it has a more complex taste than the mainstream gins.


Wow that is some damn good gin, my taste buds really do thank you.