Dell SB has Karma for $268 after rebate.

You got a day or two to do this, the coupon expires on the 30th. Pretty nice price (over $100 less than the iPod), but I'm sure better will come.

Go to Dell.com's Small Business store. Search for the Karma 20... should ber $360. Add to cart and use coupon code FE949ACCB112 for 20% off. Including the $20 rebate, you should get it for $268.

Hope it helps someone out there.

Thanks for the headsup, this is an awesome price!

well.......i was going to buy it....but it seems the coupon code is no longer valid for the karma.

dell seems to enjoy f-ing over us karma lovers

Err.... I don't know how you're getting that price, it comes up as $324 for me so I bought it anyway!
Still better than $399 from DNNA.

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I got this at first (coupon does not meet requirements), but as soon as I logged into my Dell account, it magically deducted the 20%

same here, then when i went to actualy check out it told me on the very last screen that the coupon was no longer valid.

I can't get it to work. Could it be that SB coupons don't work if your account was set up as "Home/Home Office customer"?

Still doesnt work, set up new acount within SB.

Turns out that wasn't the problem; the 20%-off coupon specifically excludes whole categories, one of which is all MP3 players (and another of which is digital cameras, FYI). The only way I learned this is by entering the coupon through "My Account"and then looking at its "details" from there (i.e., not the generic details link in my cart).

Not a total loss: I picked up a Palm Tungsten T3 for $319.

FYI: The new winning price on the Karma is a buck more, at $289 incl. slow-motion shipping and before Rio's $20 rebate....

That's $110 less than retail. This player's price is dropping tremendously fast considering that it was just released. DNNA must have realized right from the get go that they were overpriced, hence the immediate $20 rebate. Now I'm seeing the Karma from retailers such as Target for $349. For those that don't know, Target is a discount merchandise retailer found just about everywhere in the US.

No, no. Finding stuff online cheaper than "retail" is just part of life. And Target isn't really a "discount" store. They don't have a wide selection of electronics, but they are hardly an outlet store. The have iPods too, does that mean Apple is pulling the plug on the iPod?

You people need to relax, this thing hasn't even finished hitting the market yet. Wait until after the holidays to see how the product and market fares.

All I'm suggesting is that the Karma's suggested retail price looks to be coming down. Not sure if this is a corporate thing or just a result of market pressure by the retailers. If this keeps up, all of us will have Karmas for Christmas and our gift-givers will only be out $200, ah, one can hope.

Agreed, that would be very nice for the consumer!

TechTV notes that the Karma MSRP is $50 less than the iPod, which I guess suggests that the new MSRP at the moment is $349. Rioaudio.com doesn't reflect that statement, however... they still list it as $399. Odd.

RioAudio now shows it for $349.99