new software version?

Posted by: Lemmy

new software version? - 29/01/2003 12:38

Isn't it almost time now for the next one of the never ending betas?
Since 2.0 b 3 the life cycle of a beta version had been half a year at the longest... and I'm still wanting to get a decent RDS.

bye,
[L]
Posted by: JBjorgen

Re: new software version? - 29/01/2003 13:00

Don't know if you've been around much lately, but the rumor is that it's been released to the alpha team, so keep an eye out.
Posted by: genixia

Re: new software version? - 29/01/2003 13:15


Don't know if you've been around much lately


Doubtful... I think that the only time that Lemmy comes here is too demand working RDS. I don't think he enjoys our company otherwise
Posted by: tfabris

Re: new software version? - 29/01/2003 13:17

Well, he should be happy, supposedly they fixed some RDS bugs in recent builds. Too bad I'm in the US and can't test them.
Posted by: rob

Re: new software version? - 29/01/2003 17:13

In fact the only thing holding back Release Candidate 1 is that the RDS AF fix isn't fully working. Toby is working on that now, and as a result there is a new visual - AF station real time signal strength graph

TA has been long fixed as far as I know.

Rob
Posted by: Lemmy

Re: new software version? - 30/01/2003 08:03

I _do_ come here now and then but I got no troubles with my empeg so I keep my feet still. All I need now is... guess what? working RDS.

bye,
[L]
Posted by: Lemmy

Re: new software version? - 30/01/2003 08:04

gimme gimme gimme....


not only I'm in the country with one of the best RDS 'networks' so to speak, I'm also in a region where especially RDS AF would be really stressed.


bye,
[L]
Posted by: suomi35

Re: new software version? - 30/01/2003 16:11

How long is the new version usually with the alpha team before release to the public?
Posted by: tfabris

Re: new software version? - 30/01/2003 16:16

It doesn't follow a set schedule. It's an EOL product, they work on the car player software in their spare time.
Posted by: rob

Re: new software version? - 30/01/2003 19:20

It was intended to release 2.0-final within a few days, but the RC failed. The XP driver had a problem (fixed quickly) and the RDS AF support continues to have a problem (working on it - only goes wrong in the car, which slows things down!).

Rob
Posted by: suomi35

Re: new software version? - 31/01/2003 08:06

Cool! Sounds as though things are right on the brink. Keep up the good work you guys. (happy friday)
Posted by: Lemmy

Re: new software version? - 02/02/2003 01:38

strange thing, tho

basically you say things like "you are lucky that you get a new version at all", while rob says "it would have been out already if it weren't for a few bugs that are only reproducable in car"...

bye,
[L]
Posted by: andy

Re: new software version? - 02/02/2003 05:55

Both statements are perfectly correct though. We are very, very lucky to be getting new versions of firmware for a product that the manufacturer hasn't sold for over a year (and probably never made any profit on).

I hope you do realise how unusual this is and how priviledged this makes us ?
Posted by: justinlarsen

Re: new software version? - 02/02/2003 13:19

yes, its going to be great when its out, but im almost certain that once version 2.0 final is out, thats gunna be it for software dev on the player. Which is fine by me.
Posted by: AndrewT

Re: new software version? - 02/02/2003 15:51

im almost certain that once version 2.0 final is out, thats gunna be it for software dev on the player

Hopefully you're wrong - see this post by Rob.
Posted by: andy

Re: new software version? - 02/02/2003 16:10

Indeed, he has made further hints in that direction more recently as well.
Posted by: justinlarsen

Re: new software version? - 02/02/2003 19:59

whoa, i need to read the forum more.. rockin! i stand corrected.
Posted by: rob

Re: new software version? - 04/02/2003 20:38

The whole reason for getting 2.0 out of the way is so we can move on to the cool stuff in v3. I want to get some more free beta testing out of you guys

Rob
Posted by: justinlarsen

Re: new software version? - 05/02/2003 00:24

haha thats the ticket.
Posted by: AndrewT

Re: new software version? - 05/02/2003 02:43

I want to get some more free beta testing out of you guys

Likewise!
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: new software version? - 05/02/2003 04:33

Hmm... I am not so sure... I am guessing that you want all of the really cool features you have been working on in the new products to be available in your car right now...
Posted by: Terminator

Re: new software version? - 05/02/2003 08:02

No one in the US can use RDS anyway, so its no problem for us!
Posted by: number6

Re: new software version? - 05/02/2003 21:06

In reply to:


The whole reason for getting 2.0 out of the way is so we can move on to the cool stuff in v3. I want to get some more free beta testing out of you guys




So THATS what you tell the bean counters you're doing when you devote SB time and resources on software upgrades for a EOL'ed product?

Nice thinking - and I bet they believed you too...


Posted by: rob

Re: new software version? - 11/02/2003 08:34

Nice thinking - and I bet they believed you too...

It's a good argument. Our new hard disk portable shares much of the same code, including as yet untested features such as Ogg Vorbis and Cross Fade.

Rob
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: new software version? - 11/02/2003 08:36

That is something I am sure many of us would be willing to test for you...
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: new software version? - 11/02/2003 19:23

Crossfade!!!!

droooooooooolllll
Posted by: thinfourth2

Re: new software version? - 12/02/2003 01:52

How useful is it having a small tame bunch of beta testers out here with empegs to the sonicblue futre
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: new software version? - 12/02/2003 04:50

Tame???
Posted by: rob

Re: new software version? - 12/02/2003 17:28

OK so after a lot of debugging by Toby we discover that the tuner module in the A Class is screwed, and the RDS AF code actually appears to work perfectly. [censored]

So, we should now be able to release RC2 to the alpha team and see where that leads us.

Rob
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: new software version? - 12/02/2003 18:35

Sweet! Thanks for thinking of us Rob!
Posted by: boxer

Re: new software version? - 13/02/2003 03:04

RDS AF code actually appears to work perfectly

Quite happy to take it to Fylingdales and Memwith Hill, The USAF radar must be at its most intense, right now - if an Empeg can survive that, it can survive any airport radar!
Posted by: peter

Re: new software version? - 13/02/2003 03:41

Quite happy to take it to Fylingdales and Memwith Hill, The USAF radar must be at its most intense, right now - if an Empeg can survive that, it can survive any airport radar!

Parking outside Menwith Hill and fiddling with unidentifiable bits of electronics may not be all that smart a move right now...

Peter
Posted by: boxer

Re: new software version? - 13/02/2003 03:48

Parking outside Menwith Hill

I fancied a holiday in Cuba, It'll just be on the wrong side! Anyway, it was only a trojan horse to jump the queue for the software.
Posted by: meast

Re: new software version? - Update? - 13/03/2003 04:52

Been a little while. Any updates on the progress of RC2, Rob?

(Thanks for the quick shipping on my new handle, by the way...)

Posted by: rob

Re: new software version? - Update? - 13/03/2003 23:18

The general alpha team consensus seems to be that we should fix more bugs before releasing an RC3 or a final. Maybe we'll release RC2 to the world at large as an interim.

In other news, we released v3.00-alpha1 to the alpha team yesterday. This is a very clunky early release but hopefully we'll whip it into shape to follow on quickly from 2.0-final. It has lots of fun toys.

Rob
Posted by: Shonky

Re: new software version? - Update? - 14/03/2003 00:05

You've really got to stop telling the masses about these versions Rob.

Just makes us want them more. Then we hound you. Then you tell us about something new. Cycle repeats...
Posted by: mdavey

Re: new software version? - Update? - 14/03/2003 10:07

You've really got to stop telling the masses about these versions Rob.

Or give the RCs to everyone on this board
Posted by: tms13

Re: new software version? - Update? - 14/03/2003 13:31

Given the bug-fixes I've seen reported here, and assuming that the alpha-test team have found no real show-stoppers in RC2, I'd certainly be among those installing it if it were available. Even at the expense of some delay to 2.0 final, because you've fixed the RDS bugs that I care about and the remaining bugs are less important to me. Is it true that there are no known regressions compared with 2.0b13?

I know it's your decision and all that, but it can't harm to have a go, right?
Posted by: SE_Sport_Driver

Re: new software version? - Update? - 14/03/2003 16:48

I just can't wait to get this out of the way so we can look forward to 3.00 and cross fading (and whatever else they've dreamed up! )