Time (clock) Display

I noticed in the setup that I can set the clock on the empeg - but how do I ever see this info? I always have to look at my watch or mobile phone to see how late I am for work!

12gig Mk. II BLUE
Detroit, MI USA
www.PfeifferBeer.com

1.1

Paul G.
SN# 090000587 (40GB Green)

Dang you guys are quick! Before my screen refreshed, 3 people had viewed this! I posted another request and you replied already!

12gig Mk. II BLUE
Detroit, MI USA
www.PfeifferBeer.com

Aaarrgh.... Not another @#$%, vcr like, blinking clock that I have to set every time the power is off.

Please tell me it ain't so.

Aaarrgh.... Not another @#$%, vcr like, blinking clock that I have to set every time the power is off.

Please tell me it ain't so.

It ain't so.

The mk.2 has a Real Time Clock that can remember the time across power-offs. It seems to be pretty accurate. Not sure how it's displayed in 1.1 but I seem to remember something about a "Time" visual, so you only get if when you want it.

Borislav

but please make the clock available in the mk1 version too.
For those who set the clock via an external GPS unit or something else :-)

bobo

If I recall correctly, if you put a clock into the Mark 1, you would have to reset the clock every time you applied power to the empeg. It doesn't have a way of keeping time if there's no power.

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Tony Fabris

but with a GPS unit connected to the mk1, you can automaticly set the time from the received gps-time.

bobo

Or get the clock time from an RDS stream... =)

Jazz
(List 112, Mk2 12 gig #40. Mk1 4 gig #30. Mk3 1.6 16v)

...which is what it is doing at the moment anyway...

I would like it to be setable from multiple sources; it means so long as the clock display works from the kernel's clock driver, the clock should always be set regardless of the physical source. Plug it in, if there's no external clock, read RDS, if there's no RDS, start from 0:00...

One of the few remaining Mk1 owners... #00015

Ok, But here is a stumper for ya. Does it keep track of daylight savings time?

Glenn

Greetings!

It doesn't today on the MK2. I was wondering why I kept getting so many disk integrity checks until I realized that the clock was an hour off. After setting the clock to the corrected time, it was fine.

Paul G.
SN# 090000587 (40GB Green)

I was wondering why I kept getting so many disk integrity checks until I realized that the clock was an hour off. After setting the clock to the corrected time, it was fine.

Are you serious? Why would integrity checking be different when the clock is one hour off?

Henno
mk2 6 nr 6

I think it was a matter of file timestamps, but I cannot be certain. All I know is that by correcting the clock, the syncs went much quicker.

Paul G.
SN# 090000587 (40GB Green)

I think it was a matter of file timestamps, but I cannot be certain. All I know is that by correcting the clock, the syncs went much quicker.

Weird. I'll look into it. AFAICS the decision about whether to check the disk is made based on the timestamp on the filesystem (not the files). As the filesystem is only ever opened or closed by player-side code, I'd have thought the player clock only needs to be consistent, not necessarily correct. But enough people have reported this type of problem that there must be something stranger going on.

Source code: the truth is in there.

Peter

Weird, I thought fscks where done strictly based on mount count? I.e. every 20th time the drive is mounted read/write it gets checked (unless the drive was not cleanly unmounted). Does the empeg not use the normal routines for this kind of stuff?

-Mike

Not mount count only. IIRC the default count is 20; on a production
system that might well be more than 20 years - I'm well past 300 days
in uptime on my home desktop! (Yes, it is about time to get a new kernel...)

If there's been more than X days since last fsck, there will be one,
independent of what the mount count is.

If there's been more than X days since last fsck, there will be one, independent of what the mount count is.

That was my impression, too, but I'm beginning to wonder. I'm not sure that anybody really knows (not even the guys@empeg) as this is the third time (at least) that this topic has come up and no definitive answers have been provided.

I'm beginning to wonder, because my empeg gets used about 8 hours per day on average (I listen to it at work through headphones) and while I have only done a few re-synchs in the last two weeks or so, it has been at least two to three months since my last fsck.

Does anybody really know for sure just what/when triggers an fsck?

tanstaafl.

"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

Does anybody really know for sure just what/when triggers an fsck?

I had a look through the source code. The defaults are every 20 mounts or every 6 months. I guess only read/write mounts increment the counter, so this effectively means every 20 synchs rather than every 20 reboots. Obviously, the defaults can be changed, but I doubt empeg have done that if they haven't spoken up by now.

Borislav

I attached a little prog to set the empeg time from a GPS receiver.

bobo

I'm a newbie, just got my unit installed last week (it's awesome).
I didn't see a reply that showed how to turn
on a clock display. Did you ever get the info ?

Welcome to our little community, Adrian. Are you enjoying your new toy?

The answer to your question is "1.1". It seems to have become the boilerplate answer around here.

1.1 is an upcoming software release that will add a host of new features, many of which are oft-requested ones. The clock displays will be in the 1.1 release. There is a thread here where we have cataloged a list of of the features that have been "leaked" so far.

The 1.1 software is currently in alpha testing, a public beta will be happening fairly soon.

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Tony Fabris

Thanks for the answer. I'm enjoying my new toy tremedously. I just installed it in my brand new Mazda MX-5 Miata and the combination is "killer".

I can't wait for 1.1 & the tuner.

Adrian

Thanks for the answer. I'm enjoying my new toy tremedously. I just installed it in my brand new Mazda MX-5 Miata and the combination is "killer".

Hey, if you have any pics of the install, I'm sure most of us would really enjoy some install porn :) And isn't Hugo totally into MX-5's? Or am I just totally off?

Damien Heiser

RioCar 12GB Blue SN: 120001043

any "official" anwers about clock visuals in MK1 ?

bobo

There isn't going to be one.

One of the few remaining Mk1 owners... #00015

argh :-((
why dont use a config.ini entry
clockvisual=true
?

bobo

I agree. However: without a hardware clock in the Mk 1, the only other clock setting method is via and RDS radio station the way it is done now. This means that the clock dies when you power cycle. The next time that you power up, the clock is meaningless until you hit another RDS station with time info.

There is a minor point that the build size is reduced for the Mk1, which means the in-memory executable image is reduced in size. Since the Mk1 does not have as much RAM as the Mk2/2A then this helps you cache more music.

I agree though, I want a clock visual - the reason being that I intend to have an external battery-backed clock on an expansion board over serial, and write a clock driver for it for the player unit. Without the clock visuals built into the executable, this effort is wasted.

One of the few remaining Mk1 owners... #00015

Guys, sorry to bother again on this, but I just did not understand your replies. Is there a way to display the clock AND the date on MK II ?
Thank you.

Taym
empeg mack II blue 12Gb

He was, though with his NSX to play with now I wonder how much use he gets out of his 5 now...

P.S. he does still run the UK MX5 mailing list and attended an MX5 track day recently, in his NSX...
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Unit serial number 47 (was 330 in the queue)...

Ah, but I also went to curborough in my MX5 :)

Both get out quite regularly...

Hugo

Is there a way to display the clock AND the date on MK II ?

Not yet. There will be when version 1.1 is released.


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Tony Fabris

the second way.... :)
gps clock

I don't have any pics at the moment (digital camera is being repaired).

I didn't do the install myself (too clumsy for that). But this is what's installed :

J&L 75 x 4 Amp
J&L 8" sub-woofers
J&L 5.5" Mid-range
J&L tweeters.

The sub's are driven by two of the channels and the mid-range/tweeters are driven by the other two through a cross-over.

Amazingly enough they managed to fit all these in the doors.

Also hooked up a Nokia hands-free cradle, which does a great job of muting the player when there's an incoming call.

Adrian