Here (Germany) it's legal to copy a CD you legally own and give it to a friend. To many friends if you like. You can also compile your own CD's out of many CD's you own and give it to someone as a present. Or give it to your wife/friend/dog. In the end, it's 'just' music.

So for some parts of the world, this debate is useless, and I never understood why h/w manufactor don't realize that and make it possible to copy stuff back from the portable device to the PC... :-)

I assume this will change sometimes in the future but who knows. Noone can control it anyways. J.