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#110184 - 12/06/2003 10:31 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: mlord]
jarob10
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Registered: 07/01/2002
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Loc: Stockport, UK
In reply to:

And the holes shouldn't actually be tapped.. just drilled




would a clearance hole give accurate enough positioning ?

I had imagined a machine screw (+washer) - wooden block - 'avdel' type captive nut
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#110185 - 12/06/2003 10:35 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: jarob10]
mlord
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Yes: Insert block w/connector into sled, then dock the player while adjusting the block so that it mates correctly. Then, while still docked, drive wood screws through the holes into the block from behind. Done. Optional step: predrill before driving the screws.

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#110186 - 12/06/2003 12:04 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: mlord]
jarob10
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ok cool.

alternative design : how about a sort of clamp arrangement which clamped onto the edges of the existing sled cut out. More complex woodworking, but :

- it would be retrofittable to existing sleds
- it would require no machining by the end user
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#110187 - 12/06/2003 13:15 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: jarob10]
mlord
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I'll look into it. But Goop also allows for a "machining free" install!

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#110188 - 17/06/2003 11:03 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: mlord]
robricc
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Loc: New Jersey, USA
Update: Looks like I can have some for the Texas meet.



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#110189 - 17/06/2003 13:08 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
bjoern
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Registered: 03/04/2002
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Loc: Regensburg, Germany
I'm leaving for a vacation tomorrow! Please have me down for two black ones without connectors in case they come out before I come back!!!
Pleeeeze?
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#110190 - 17/06/2003 13:29 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
dynamix
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Loc: LV
Wow I cannot WAIT to get my hands on one of those! Very anxious!

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#110191 - 17/06/2003 16:06 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: dynamix]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
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Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Ditto to that. My WRX install is waiting for it's black sled! Looking good Rob.
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#110192 - 18/06/2003 09:18 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: loren]
robricc
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They have arrived. Watch riocar.org and the general forum for ordering details in a couple days.



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#110193 - 18/06/2003 09:25 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
pgrzelak
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Oooh... That looks sweet... I hadn't planned on ordering any before, but... How hard is it to put a wire harness in it?
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#110194 - 18/06/2003 09:26 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
djc
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Registered: 08/08/2000
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Loc: chicago
nice! i don't think you'll have a problem finding a market for these.

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#110195 - 18/06/2003 09:38 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: pgrzelak]
robricc
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If you have an original empeg harness, you can just unscrew it and then put it back on my sleds. Plug and play.
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#110196 - 18/06/2003 09:52 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: pgrzelak]
phi144
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Loc: New Hampshire, USA
I agree,

I haven't felt the need for a new sled. Epecially since I have a new original still in the box, but I like the black so maybe...
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#110197 - 18/06/2003 10:08 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
maczrool
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Loc: Louisiana, USA
I like the black too. That would be the only reason to get one for me. Did you say it was powdercoat?

Stu
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#110198 - 18/06/2003 10:39 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: maczrool]
robricc
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Did you say it was powdercoat?
Yes
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#110199 - 18/06/2003 12:07 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
JBjorgen
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*drools*
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#110200 - 19/06/2003 10:24 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
robricc
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http://www.spmicro.com/store

Sale prices will be good for all orders placed before 9AM Friday morning eastern time.

I'm doing pre-order because the sleds are done, but some packing material has not shown up yet. It should be here tomorrow (friday) or monday next week.

I will have at least 3 sleds with me at the Texas meet this weekend. If you're coming to the meet and want to save shipping costs, you can buy there at the sale price.

OK, I think that's it.
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#110201 - 19/06/2003 10:38 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
tfabris
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There's now a "Sleds" entry in the bar of links at the top of this page.
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#110202 - 19/06/2003 10:42 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: tfabris]
robricc
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Thank you sir.
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#110203 - 20/06/2003 14:55 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
NasalGoat
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$30 FOR S&H!?!?!

Does it include a blowjob?!?!

Shipping can't be more than $5...

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#110204 - 21/06/2003 06:27 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: NasalGoat]
genixia
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I suppose that Rob could stick it in a grocery bag and shove it through USPS for you if that's what you really wanted. Good luck getting your empeg to fit in a flat sled though.

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#110205 - 21/06/2003 06:59 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: genixia]
NasalGoat
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It's a big piece of bent steel. It's not like it needs a lot of packaging and bracing.

A box to put it in is about $2 at ripoff places like Mailbox Etc. and the actual shipping cost can't be more than $5. Does it even weigh a pound?

$30US is a lot for shipping. I'd say $20 of it is handling, and if there is that much work in shipping it, why isn't it in the initial purchase price?

And why doesn't the site say something about $30 shipping before you go through the process of ordering?

You're not at all concerned that the shipping cost almost doubles the cost of the item?

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#110206 - 21/06/2003 07:12 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
BartDG
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Loc: Bruges, Belgium
Rob,

How much is international shipping for a black sled ?

Thanks!
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#110207 - 21/06/2003 07:47 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: NasalGoat]
Mach
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Apparently the extra $20 is tied to shipping to Canada. I've got 2 sleds and a harness on order and shipping and handling is $9.25 to PA. IIRC, Rob's at the Texas meet this weekend. He should be able tell you about the difference when he gets back.

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#110208 - 21/06/2003 08:28 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: Mach]
mlord
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I still find it rather peculiar that shipping things from within the USA to the outside is so expensive! Going the other way, at least from Canada, is very very cheap by comparism.

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#110209 - 21/06/2003 08:29 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: mlord]
pgrzelak
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Perhaps the decline of the US$?
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#110210 - 22/06/2003 22:36 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: NasalGoat]
robricc
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Go to USPS.gov and take it up with them. A packaged sled weighs about 3-4 pounds. Unless you can wait a month or two, that is the cheapest price.

I could also ship UPS or Fedex but that is a minimum of $49. I shipped out 2 sleds to someone in the UK via UPS and it cost $62 for the one package. And no, I am not going to Mailboxes Etc. We have a UPS shipping terminal in-house, and get a discounted rate on top of that.

None of the shipping prices are intentionally inflated. In fact, within the US, I am shipping via UPS and am taking a bit of a loss on anyone that is ordering their sled shipped to a residential address.

The last thing I'm trying to do is fleece the empeg community. I have been a member of this BBS far too long to let sleds affect how people view me. I don't want what happened to Darkstorm happening to me.

PS - Anything outside the US is charged the same amount for shipping, so there is nothing dynamic hapening there. I forget what country I used for the $25 figure, but it was either UK or NL. Once I start sending out the sleds and actually go to the post office, I will have a better idea of what the actual cost is. If it turns out to be significantly less, I will offer refunds to people who have already placed an order.
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#110211 - 23/06/2003 05:02 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: robricc]
mlord
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Loc: Canada
>A packaged sled weighs about 3-4 pounds.

Wow! Are these of a beefier metal than the originals? Or just very ruggedly packaged to survive the USPS?

A packaged Home dock masses about 1.4KG --> around 3 pounds, and ships from here to the USA for between CAD$10 and CAD$15, plus packaging costs.

The rest of the world is a flat rate CAD$35.50 for 7-10 day airmail.

We seem to have a much cheaper postal service here, for whatever reason.

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#110212 - 23/06/2003 05:45 Re: Empeg sleds without wire harness [Re: mlord]
robricc
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I don't know. That's just what it came out to. It may be the packing material we're using. We have that foam stuff that expands to conform around the product.
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