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#194727 - 24/12/2003 14:18 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mlord]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
it cannot delete what it doesn't know about...

You know, I actualy didn't consider that fact.

Thanks Mark! Giving it another shot now.
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#194728 - 24/12/2003 14:22 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mlord]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Well, can't use emplode (no Windows) but no music shows up in jEmplode 45 or 47. Maybe I should hunt a Windows machine.

I upgraded from 3 alpha 3 to 3 alpha 5, jEmplode 45 and 47 both worked before. Shrug. I have a few more ideas.

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#194729 - 24/12/2003 15:04 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: Daria]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Is it actually working for anyone apart from me? I haven't tried any kind of PC connection (apart from applying the upgrade) but it went from alpha3 to alpha5 without having to rebuild the database.

Rob

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#194730 - 24/12/2003 15:07 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: rob]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
Is it actually working for anyone apart from me?

Err...no?


I haven't tried any kind of PC connection (apart from applying the upgrade) but it went from alpha3 to alpha5 without having to rebuild the database.

Actually, I'm just trying to get the upgrade on there with playlists intact. I'm going from 2.0 to 3.0, though. Think that may be the problem?
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#194731 - 24/12/2003 15:27 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: rob]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
No problems going from alpha3 to alpha5, it reuses the same database.

But if the database is not already there.. it is unable to build a new one:


allocating_buffer_pool.cpp: 49:sizeof(BufferEntry) = 32
allocating_buffer_pool.cpp: 50:sizeof(BlockEntry) = 16
player.cpp : 569:empeg-car 3.00-alpha5 2003/12/24.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
! memory_stream.cpp : 42:MemoryStream failed to allocate memory.
! tunedb_disk.cpp : 878:Failed to build database. Bad. 0xc007000e
! fidfile_disk.cpp :1167:Why did write return zero for offset=0, size=0?
! fidfile_disk.cpp :1167:Why did write return zero for offset=0, size=0?


So, for now, use upgrader to install v3alpha3, rebuild the database, then use upgrader again to install v3alpha5. Then play with it!

-ml


Edited by mlord (24/12/2003 15:30)

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#194732 - 24/12/2003 15:30 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mlord]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Using the upgrader means I have to install telnetd again when I'm done. If I can just remember where I put 3alpha3, I bet stealing just the player binary from it and swapping them in place on the disk will work.

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#194733 - 24/12/2003 15:30 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mlord]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
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Loc: Colorado
! tunedb_disk.cpp : 878:Failed to build database. Bad. 0xc007000e
! fidfile_disk.cpp :1167:Why did write return zero for offset=0, size=0?
! fidfile_disk.cpp :1167:Why did write return zero for offset=0, size=0?


EXACTLY what I was getting. Running through 2.0 -> 3.0a3 -> 3.0a5 upgrade now.

Thanks for the help, all! And thanks again Rob for the excellent X-Mas present. Where precisely do I mail the pint?
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#194734 - 24/12/2003 15:32 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: Daria]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
would you like a v3a3 player binary?

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#194735 - 24/12/2003 15:36 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mlord]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
would save me from needing to figure out where my image went. [email protected] if you don't mind sending it.

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#194736 - 24/12/2003 15:48 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: rob]
Mataglap
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Registered: 11/06/2003
Posts: 384
v3a3 & Hijack 342, using upgrader 0.4 to v3a5. The only problem was that the current playlist was lost, but I did a down-down-down and there everything was.

Let's see how things work for the next few days, but the upgrade was painless for this Windows/Cygwin user.

--Nathan

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#194737 - 24/12/2003 15:52 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: Mataglap]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Just remember, everyone, that once you have v3a5 working, you can only edit the database (emplode, emptool, jemplode) by first reverting back to v3a3.

The v3alpha5 player is unable to rebuild databases (at least for me). Period.

Cheers

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#194738 - 24/12/2003 15:52 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: Daria]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
You should have the binary by now. Sorry, I forgot to gzip it first (huge file), duh..

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#194739 - 24/12/2003 16:02 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mlord]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Broadband. Didn't even notice. Player's well into rebuilding. Thanks.

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#194740 - 24/12/2003 16:02 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mlord]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
Should we report this as a bug?
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#194741 - 24/12/2003 16:07 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: Daria]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
>Broadband. Didn't even notice.

Yuh, I only noticed here because I'm actually at the inlaws place, and their broadband uplink is only 1/8 the speed of my usual uplink..

Cheers

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#194742 - 24/12/2003 16:34 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mlord]
Mataglap
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Registered: 11/06/2003
Posts: 384
In reply to:


Just remember, everyone, that once you have v3a5 working, you can only edit the database (emplode, emptool, jemplode) by first reverting back to v3a3.

The v3alpha5 player is unable to rebuild databases (at least for me). Period.




To reinforce Mark's warning, don't even try to upload new music with v3a5. Each change will eventually fail and time out during the "initializing" task for each uploading object (playlist, tunes, &c.) with error 0x8004003e.

--Nathan


Edited by Mataglap (24/12/2003 16:47)

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#194743 - 24/12/2003 16:38 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: Mataglap]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Hmm, is the old alpha still on the empeg site somewhere? I'd like to play with the new alpha, but I don't have the old one to build the DB first.

-Mike
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#194744 - 24/12/2003 16:50 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mcomb]
Mataglap
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Registered: 11/06/2003
Posts: 384
Here's v3a3 developer....

--Nathan


Attachments
193925-car2-developer-v3.00-alpha3.upgrade (231 downloads)


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#194745 - 24/12/2003 16:54 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: Mataglap]
Mataglap
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Registered: 11/06/2003
Posts: 384
Okay, the file must be too big.

Try this
v3a3, v3a5, and upgrader 0.6 for cygwin.

I'll leave the files up for a week or two.

--Nathan

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#194746 - 24/12/2003 17:01 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: rob]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Mmmm.. hard disk spin up/down behaviour is MUCH better in alpha5. The best I've seen in a while, I think. Spins up, grabs data, spins down again. Elapsed time maybe 10 seconds or less. Very nice!

-ml

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#194747 - 24/12/2003 17:09 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: Mataglap]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Try this

Thank you!

-Mike
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#194748 - 24/12/2003 17:10 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mlord]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Wish I could get that far. If I swap in alpha 3, I have playlists (after I rebuilt them previously, with jemplode 47, and alpha 3). If I swap in alpha 5, it shows "rebuilding databases" (and fails of course) and I have nothing. If I swap alpha 3 back in, doesn't claim to rebuild, and it has playlists again.

Very special. Of course I need to run away now, so I'll just leave alpha 3 on it and figure it out later

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#194749 - 24/12/2003 17:16 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mlord]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Thanks for figuring out the problem, Mark.

Folks, sorry this turned out to be a bit of a crummy Christmas present! ..and I thought the socks I got for my father were bad!

Rob

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#194750 - 24/12/2003 17:21 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: rob]
Mataglap
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Registered: 11/06/2003
Posts: 384
Thanks for making it available anyway, Rob. After all, "It's the thought that counts."

--Nathan

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#194751 - 24/12/2003 17:21 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: rob]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Folks, sorry this turned out to be a bit of a crummy Christmas present!

No worries, I love spending Christmas eve debugging my car stereo
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#194752 - 24/12/2003 17:23 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mcomb]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
No worries, I love spending Christmas eve debugging my car stereo

It's only fair - a number of Chrismas eve's were spent developing your car stereo

Rob

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#194753 - 24/12/2003 17:24 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: rob]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Hahahaha...

Before or after the eggnog was spiked ???
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#194754 - 24/12/2003 17:31 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: Daria]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
After your v3alpha boots, do a SYNC from emplode to write the databases to disk (on boot, they are not written to disk -- read-only filesystem).

After the sync, v3alpha5 should work just fine.

Cheers

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#194755 - 24/12/2003 18:10 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: mlord]
Taym
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
After the sync, v3alpha5 should work just fine.


Sorry but I am a bit lost. Will I also be able to upload songs, as I do with v3alpha3?

Thank you Mark and all the others who helped here!


Edit:

Ok, ok, I got it. So, one has to go through a resync (=dbase rebuilt) in v3alpha3 before upgrading to v3alpha5 . Sorry, I must have drunk too much spumante...


Edited by taym (24/12/2003 18:14)
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#194756 - 24/12/2003 18:35 Re: Merry Christmas [Re: Taym]
boxer
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Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
Ooh! [censored], I'me hALF AN HOUR LATE & REPREHENSIBLY Pissed, merry Christmas from Boxer, Mrs. Boxer and the boxette, hope 04 will be a great one!
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