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#254462 - 23/01/2006 20:33 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: tfabris]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
Caught me too. Press knob to get to HiJack, go to the settings for the COM port, change it to "player uses port", connect with Hyperterm.
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#254463 - 23/01/2006 20:42 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: schofiel]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
Here's the v441 thread where it was announced.
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#254464 - 23/01/2006 20:59 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: JBjorgen]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
Okay, I updated the FAQ. I put it up at the top of the entry. Thanks!
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#254465 - 23/01/2006 21:12 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: JBjorgen]
Snowshoe
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Registered: 04/04/2004
Posts: 16
Loc: Midwest
Boy do I feel foolish. I D/L'd w/o checking BBS on what the new version was for, which is what I usually don't do. Most of the time the changes don't affect my use, but I like to keep it updated. Sorry for the trouble, move along nothing to see here.


Edited by Snowshoe (23/01/2006 21:13)

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#254466 - 23/01/2006 21:31 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: schofiel]
Snowshoe
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Registered: 04/04/2004
Posts: 16
Loc: Midwest
I'll be damned, I never noticed that extra menu entry in Hijack. Sorry Mark for the trouble.

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#254467 - 23/01/2006 22:34 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: Snowshoe]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
Oh, heck.. it still gets me from time to time as well.

I might change it again someday when I have time -- it should really use the "old" behaviour up until some app actually accesses the serial point, at which time it should disconnect the player from it. I think that (or an option for that) would be ideal.

Cheers

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#254468 - 24/01/2006 00:51 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: mlord]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
Or how 'bout giving the player control when it detects a ctrl-c? Maybe not...I guess your idea is better.
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#254469 - 24/01/2006 07:07 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: JBjorgen]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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Or how 'bout giving the player control when it detects a ctrl-c? Maybe not...I guess your idea is better.

That'd be really confusing if it did that.

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#254470 - 28/01/2006 22:16 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: tman]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
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Or how 'bout giving the player control when it detects a ctrl-c? Maybe not...I guess your idea is better.

That'd be really confusing if it did that.

Agreed. Personally I find it a bit confusing that hijack is making any change to the default behavior without the user selecting it. I'm sure Mark had a reason, but I must have missed it. So why isn't the default to let the player use the serial port unless the user specifically changes it? I think I'm still running the hijack version from just before this change so this is going to get me when I next update hijack.

-Mike
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#254471 - 28/01/2006 22:55 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: mcomb]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
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why isn't the default to let the player use the serial port unless the user specifically changes it?


That *is* the default. Unless you install Hijack. Then, the default becomes "enable Hijack's features", which requires that the player's output not go to the serial port, but rather, be intercepted by Hijack.

Duh.

But as I said already, that's not the best way. The best would probably be to have the player's stuff go to the serial port, and *still* be intercepted/used by Hijack. As before The Change.

Cheers!

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#254472 - 28/01/2006 23:41 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: mlord]
mcomb
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Duh.

I just reread your original thread describing the change and I understand the reasoning for the change now. I'd still argue that it is counterintuitive, but you provided fair warning so whatever floats your twinkie.

-Mike
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#254473 - 29/01/2006 17:50 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: mlord]
Snowshoe
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Registered: 04/04/2004
Posts: 16
Loc: Midwest
I'm about to do a drive change & of course it involves Hyperterminal. If a person was to forget to change the serial port assignment beforehand would that be hazardous or could it be resolved after the fact?

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#254474 - 29/01/2006 23:48 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: Snowshoe]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
If you're doing the drive change according to the Drive Upgrade Guide, Hijack isn't part of the procedure. Without hijack installed, the serial port assignment thing isn't an issue.
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#254475 - 30/01/2006 02:50 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: tfabris]
Snowshoe
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Registered: 04/04/2004
Posts: 16
Loc: Midwest
OK thanks Tony I think I have a bad new laptop drive. I've done a lot of swapping & reading of posts for answers. The 'builder upgrade' file can't find a pump. Another drive works in it's place so I've ruled out bad cables & header solders. Any problems associated w/Fujitsu Travelstar 40G drives in a Mk2a that anyone recalls?


Edited by Snowshoe (30/01/2006 02:50)

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#254476 - 31/01/2006 19:26 Re: "smartctl" for diagnosing drive issues [Re: Snowshoe]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
Do you have the jumpers set correctly?

Are you using it in tandem with another drive? There are quite rare cases where some drives "don't play well with others". They will certainly play up if there are two jumpers and both are set to slave or both to master.
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