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#336103 - 13/08/2010 18:35 empegbbs.com slow to load
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
Does anyone else find that if they haven't been to the empegbbs for an hour or two, it seems to take an absolute age to load up? It happens at home, at work and on the phone over 3G. It appears to hang at the DNS resolution stage. But after this initial delay every subsequent request is near instantaneous.
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#336104 - 13/08/2010 18:46 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: andym]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Yes. Happens to me too. Over the weekend I was being taken to placeholder site from GoDaddy.

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#336105 - 13/08/2010 18:47 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: andym]
JeffS
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2858
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Yes.
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#336106 - 13/08/2010 18:53 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: JeffS]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Yes.. feels like slow DNS to me here.

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#336107 - 13/08/2010 18:55 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: JeffS]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
ISTR it started happening after the site moved hosts in May.
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#336110 - 13/08/2010 19:52 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: andym]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
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Loc: Seattle transplant
Originally Posted By: andym
ISTR it started happening after the site moved hosts in May.
This is my impression as well.
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#336122 - 14/08/2010 00:39 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: Robotic]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Odd, the DNS where empegbbs.com lives didn't change beyond where the A record points. I have been tracking some slowdown when posts are made but this is the first I've heard of it just being slow to load due to DNS.

I'm at Quakecon currently, but will investigate deeper later. There is a possibility some of it is DB slowness, especially after backups are made around 0:00 Central Time ( -5 GMT currently).

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#336124 - 14/08/2010 01:14 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: andym]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5539
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Originally Posted By: andym
it seems to take an absolute age to load up?

Depends on how you define "absolute age..."

It takes me 2--3 seconds to display the main forum page for the first time. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

tanstaafl.
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#336126 - 14/08/2010 01:50 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: tanstaafl.]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
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#336131 - 14/08/2010 06:43 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: andym]
BartDG
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Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
Haven't noticed any slowdowns yesterday, and today the site is as snappy as always. No complaints here.
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#336133 - 14/08/2010 09:16 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: tanstaafl.]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
Originally Posted By: tanstaafl.
Originally Posted By: andym
it seems to take an absolute age to load up?

Depends on how you define "absolute age..."

Up to 10 seconds, which to me, is enough normally to indicate a site is down.
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#336135 - 14/08/2010 11:50 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: andym]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Yup. 5-10 seconds to get the first load after rebooting my computer, very snappy on subsequent page views.

That's why it feels like DNS slowness -- exact symptom match.

I really should debug it further. Later today, perhaps.

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#336136 - 14/08/2010 12:39 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: mlord]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5539
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Originally Posted By: mlord
Yup. 5-10 seconds to get the first load after rebooting my computer, very snappy on subsequent page views.

1.49 seconds after fresh power-off restart.

edit: 0.98 seconds without restart.

tanstaafl.


Edited by tanstaafl. (14/08/2010 12:41)
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#336137 - 14/08/2010 14:20 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: tanstaafl.]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
I've noticed this for maybe 2 months or so, 5-10 seconds for the initial page load of the day, then it's instant access to all empeg related content.

Maybe it's a browser specific bug? Anyone else using the Chrome Dev channel as their default browser? I haven't been paying much attention if it happens on firefox, I've used chrome dev as my primary browser for ages.
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#336138 - 14/08/2010 14:24 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: oliver]
oliver
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It appears that the secondary nameserver isn't responding to requests
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#336139 - 14/08/2010 14:37 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: oliver]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Seems fine for me. When it hasn't, there's usually been something more drastic, like not being able to load the page at all.

Using Safari.
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#336141 - 15/08/2010 00:36 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: hybrid8]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Mmm.. quicker this evening. Two tries, both more or less instantaneous.

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#336142 - 15/08/2010 00:36 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: hybrid8]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
There are a couple of issues here. The secondary nameserver isn't working for one.

http://intodns.com/empegbbs.com
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#336143 - 15/08/2010 00:46 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: Shonky]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
This thread is really weird to me. I've never noticed any delay at all...
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#336154 - 15/08/2010 23:55 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: Dignan]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
I have been seeing about a 20 second delay on the first load both from home and from work for the last couple months.
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#336230 - 18/08/2010 08:27 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: tanstaafl.]
JeffS
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2858
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Originally Posted By: tanstaafl.
Depends on how you define "absolute age..."

I just counted 1 minute 30 seconds to load.

Edit: Firefox


Edited by JeffS (18/08/2010 10:29)
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#336231 - 18/08/2010 10:11 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: JeffS]
frog51
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Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
Just as extra info points:

no delay for me (ie sub 2 seconds every time) from home (talktalk using OpenDNS) with FF3.6, FF4b1 or Chrome, or from work via Colt telecoms POP in London
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#336232 - 18/08/2010 10:21 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: frog51]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5914
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
No delays here either, AAISP using my own local DNS caching server. Never seen any delays on my iPhone either, via O2.
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#336236 - 18/08/2010 12:48 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: andy]
DWallach
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Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
Odd. I just opened five tabs from the empegbbs. Three opened immediately and two are wedged.

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#336240 - 18/08/2010 19:29 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: DWallach]
Cris
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Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1904
Loc: Leeds, UK
I've been having problems like andym, today all of a sudden it seems better ???

Cheers

Cris.

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#336242 - 18/08/2010 20:18 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: Cris]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
It seems highly variable. I've had a couple of days where it's popped up instantly but today it's slow.

I'm surprise Tom hasn't said anything in this thread yet. The fact one of the DNS servers is responding would indicate there is an issue of some sort.
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#336245 - 18/08/2010 23:58 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: andym]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
I've just redirected the MIA nameserver (ns2.perilith.com) to 127.0.0.1, and no more delay now.

Still.. I wonder if there's something I can set somewhere to have our local caching DNS do parallel lookups and not wait for the MIA nameserver to respond?

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#336246 - 19/08/2010 00:05 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Whether it's quick or slow, on any given hour or day, depends upon _which_ nameserver your system or DNS lookup service happens to choose.

So long as they always pick the first server, it will be quick. Whenever they pick the second server, it will be slow -- things have to time-out before they fall back to the first server.

In my case, my local caching server appears to normally try the second server first, causing a five-second delay before it times out and tries the other server.

Cheers

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#336247 - 19/08/2010 00:20 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Mmm.. It looks like the failed ns2.perilith.com was once a static IP at the end of somebody's DSL link:
Code:
[~] host NS2.PERILITH.COM
NS2.PERILITH.COM has address 173.203.115.251
[~] host 173.203.115.251
251.115.203.173.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 173-203-115-251.static.cloud-ips.com.

The domain is owned by Vitorio Miliano, in Texas. "Vito" for short. smile
His current static IP is 173.203.115.13, but he's not running a nameserver on it.
And don't try poking a stick at it, cuz it'll blacklist you (as it did me just now).

I wonder if he's an acquaintance of Tom?

Telephone (in Austin, TX, USA): (phone number removed)
Email is listed as: [b(email removed)[/b]


Edited by drakino (19/08/2010 11:39)
Edit Reason: removing phone number/email

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#336248 - 19/08/2010 00:28 Re: empegbbs.com slow to load [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Or quite possibly, "Vito" is a fake name, and the real admin is Josh Odom of San Antonia, TX.

Enough digging.. just blacklisting ns2.perilith.com is enough to "fix" it for me here.

Cheers

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