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#258737 - 22/06/2005 11:11 Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk
LTJBukem
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Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 299
HI,

I have a problem with my player which doesn't seem to be specifically in the FAQ.

When the player is playing, it will sometimes stop playing for no reason. I have managed to work out that it does this mostly when it is about to change song so it may be a problem trying to cache the next song?

When this happens i can hear the hard disk. It spins up, clicks, spins down and repeats this every 10 seconds or so until eventually i have to pull the power. Sometimes after this I get a No Hard Disk Found.

If i give the player a little shake and reboot, mostly it works ok again for a while and then i get a repeat of the same problem. Often the player will start in a different position to where it left off, sometimes the same though.

It has been doing this for ages. The HD cable has been replaced about a year ago, but it's had little use since then and rarely moves position out of the lounge, so i don't think it is that.

Any ideas what it might be ? I like this little machine, even though my volume knob is completely wacky, it still works for what i want it to do.

Thanks
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#258738 - 22/06/2005 11:31 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: LTJBukem]
StigOE
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Registered: 27/10/2002
Posts: 568
Seems like it might be a dodgy IDE header, which needs to be resoldered (by someone competent)...

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#258739 - 22/06/2005 11:45 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: LTJBukem]
LTJBukem
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Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 299
Bugger ...

I suspected that. I will have a look later tonight, but it is showing all the signs.

Are repairs being done at Amersfoot this year ? I'm not going unfortunately, but i could trust my player to someone.
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#258740 - 22/06/2005 13:00 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: LTJBukem]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3995
Loc: Manchester UK
I don't think there will be any repairs being done this year, if remember correctly the hotel doesn't like people using soldering irons on the premises
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#258741 - 22/06/2005 13:54 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: LTJBukem]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31582
Loc: Seattle, WA
Quote:
doesn't seem to be specifically in the FAQ.

Oh?

Quote:
I get a No Hard Disk Found.

Um, don't see how this qualifies as "not in the FAQ", when it's definitely, absolutely, 100 percent covered by the usual entry.

Your problem is definitely one of the items listed there.
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#258742 - 22/06/2005 14:21 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: tfabris]
jmwking
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Registered: 27/02/2003
Posts: 770
Loc: Washington, DC metro
The pebble remains...

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#258743 - 22/06/2005 16:35 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: tfabris]
LTJBukem
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Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 299
ok, so No Hard Disk found is definately in the FAQ (if there was a bowing smiley i would have used that )

Anyhow my IDE Header seems fine, but i did find this in the shell prompt ...

Could not find CS4231A (version=80)

I take it this is bad ...

Then on some subsequent reboots i get this

empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0d

which i take it is good ....

confusing ...


Edited by LTJBukem (22/06/2005 16:40)
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#258744 - 22/06/2005 18:04 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: LTJBukem]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14486
Loc: Canada
a0 is good, a0d should be impossible (typo?).

If it works intermittently, then I'd say the IDE header is definitely the most likely suspect.

The IDE header, ethernet chip, USB chip, and CS4231A are all wired together on the same internal bus. A fault in any one of them can affect the others.

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#258745 - 22/06/2005 18:28 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: mlord]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3583
Loc: Columbus, OH
I agree, even if your IDE header seems fine, get it resoldered by someone with the qualifications to do so, just to be sure. All the symptoms point toward that.
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#258746 - 23/06/2005 13:35 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: JBjorgen]
LTJBukem
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Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 299
Thanks fellas,

Anyone any idea of a likely cost of such a repair ? I am based in the UK.

Plus at the same time i would probably get my volume knob fixed too.

Thanks


Edited by LTJBukem (23/06/2005 13:35)
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#258747 - 23/06/2005 13:38 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: LTJBukem]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
I can, but you'll have to wait until after the empeg meet.

Or better still, bring it to the empeg meet...
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#258748 - 23/06/2005 14:32 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: schofiel]
LTJBukem
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Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 299
I can't come to the meet unfortunately.

Could you give me a very very ball park figure for the repair of both the IDE and Vol Knod ?

ie. < £50, £50-£100, £100-£150, £150-£200, more ....

I wouldn't hold you to this figure but it gives me an idea whether i wantt o get it repaired or not, or just put up with it.

Thanks
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#258749 - 23/06/2005 14:43 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: LTJBukem]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
Cable is E16, fit it yourself. Replacement decoder E16, usually about 1 hour's work @ E20/hr for replacement. Service and field mods thrown in free. Postage to Cambridge and back.
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#258750 - 23/06/2005 16:19 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: schofiel]
LTJBukem
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Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 299
OK, so i only have to get the unit to Cambridge ?

It turns out i have a dim display too, which has only come on today in the hot weather. I had left the empeg on test in a pretty hot room, but i can't imagine it got above 40C in here.

According the FAQ this is a blown fuse which would need replacing.

So as a rough guide we would be talking 32EUR in parts and 20-40EUR in labour plus shipping, so probably less than 100EUR all in.

Is that correct ?
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#258751 - 23/06/2005 16:26 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: LTJBukem]
schofiel
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
Yeah - except you now toss a dim display in! Blimey, you do know how to tease a girl.

I have no idea what this would cost as until I examine it - I don't know what the source of the problem is.
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#258752 - 23/06/2005 17:26 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: schofiel]
LTJBukem
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Registered: 18/07/2001
Posts: 299
Sorry .. and thanks.

I must say i'm half tempted to sell as a spares or repair empeg ...
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#258753 - 27/06/2005 16:00 Re: Intermittent Stops Playing. Occasional No Hard Disk [Re: LTJBukem]
schofiel
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
Unless you are utterly, utterly, barrel-scrapingly broke, I would recommend you DON'T sell, but repair.
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