I thought that would be brought up. I suppose it's hard for me to argue, not having owned one. No, the Zune does not have things like insert, but sadly the Karma is a little outdated at this point, and hardware-wise you can't tell me the Karma stacks up with anything today.

For the time, I'll agree that the Karma was great, but I stand by my assertion that when it comes to dedicated [portable] MP3 players, the Zune is hard to beat. It has its problems, but it's a great device.

But nobody wants dedicated MP3 players anymore, and that's understandable. I think MS is going the right route here, and it was only a matter of time before they killed this thing off.