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#41134 - 09/10/2001 16:35 Bad news for mp3..
mp3freak
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Registered: 20/09/2001
Posts: 17
Loc: Seattle, WA.. USA
Check out this link, Sony and Universal to release CD's starting as soon as October with copy protection.
The Story

If waiting for v2.0 wasn't killing me already, now this.... John K.

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#41135 - 09/10/2001 16:45 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: mp3freak]
DWallach
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Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
For those looking for somewhat more interesting stories on this issue, go read the current issue of IEEE Computer.

In particular, you might like my article, "Copy Protection Technology Is Doomed".


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#41136 - 09/10/2001 17:02 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: DWallach]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Not a helpful link unless you're up for sharing a username & pwd.

-Zeke

just say you weren't paying much attention...
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#41137 - 09/10/2001 17:20 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: mp3freak]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
Yeah after the "copy protected cds" are distributed, it will take a few weeks for some geek to break the protection and spread the hack across the internet. I always be able to make mp3s of my music with the encoder of my choice, despite what the music companies try to stop me.

Sean


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#41138 - 09/10/2001 18:47 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: Terminator]
mp3freak
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Registered: 20/09/2001
Posts: 17
Loc: Seattle, WA.. USA
That's my plan all along; get all the geeks riled up (rallying the troops, so to speak)... that way I won't have to wait as long for the hack!

JK

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#41139 - 09/10/2001 20:01 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: Terminator]
94cobra
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Registered: 30/09/1999
Posts: 252
Most things are hacked before they come out. There are ways around everything, thankfully.

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#41140 - 10/10/2001 00:54 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: mp3freak]
furtive
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Registered: 14/08/2001
Posts: 886
Loc: London, UK
I think I read somewhere (can't remember where) that the new Michael Jackson CD has some sort of protection on it.

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#41141 - 10/10/2001 00:57 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: furtive]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
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other than it's Michael Jackson?

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#41142 - 10/10/2001 07:19 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: muzza]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Actually, closer investigation showed that the Michael Jackson CD that was protected was only the radio station promo copies - to try and stop it getting on musc sharing services before it was even released (as usually happens!)

Hugo



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#41143 - 10/10/2001 07:32 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: furtive]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
The fact that it's MJ should be protection enough

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#41144 - 10/10/2001 08:24 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: schofiel]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I have no problem with record companies protecting promo copies. Technically, they are still owned (the actual disk) by the record company. It is a little disturbing that I was able to download the entire Orbital CD 5 or 6 weeks before it came out.

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#41145 - 10/10/2001 09:25 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: mp3freak]
ClemsonJeep
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Registered: 09/11/1999
Posts: 398
Loc: Ashburn, VA
For every group of 5 programmers trying to come up with a "anti-piracy" CD protection scheme, there will be thousands of hackers breaking it.

This has been discussed to death on this forum (it would be interesting to see stats on how often one of these "the sky is falling for digital audio" threads is started here) :)

There will never be a time when you will not be able to make digital copies of your own legally bought music. And there will never be a time when you will not be able to go download the latest Michael Jackson album 1-2 months before it comes out, if you know where to look.

Not that I advocate that, of course. [the buying of Michael Jackson albums ;) ]

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#41146 - 10/10/2001 11:13 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: Ezekiel]
DWallach
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Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
Not a helpful link unless you're up for sharing a username & pwd.

Oops. It worked fine for me, but that's probably because my employer pays the IEEE buckets of money for unlimited access to their magazines. Here's a local copy.


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#41147 - 10/10/2001 15:04 Re: Bad news for mp3.. [Re: DWallach]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Thank you. Excellent article, by the way.

-Zeke

just say you weren't paying much attention...
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